Synthetic Turf Hockey Facility

Consultation has concluded

The Town of Victoria Park is currently exploring a range of opportunities and strategies to provide the Victoria Park Xavier Hockey Club (VPXHC) with a synthetic turf hockey field to complement the grass hockey fields they train and play on.

The VPXHC is one of Perth's largest hockey clubs with more than 600 members; making it one of the Town’s largest sporting group. From its junior Minkey program through to experienced players, the club caters for players of all ages and abilities.

Throughout Australia, hockey is now predominantly played on synthetic turf surfaces. The Town has acknowledged that if VPXHC is to remain competitive and sustainable they require a synthetic turf field.

In 2015 the Town decided to explore the feasibility of building a new synthetic turf field for the Club. A feasibility study completed in 2015 identified Harold Rossiter Reserve as a potential location for a new field, which resulted in the development of a business case to aid decision-making.

Council made a resolution at its meeting on 11 July 2017 to receive the business case, and investigate additional locations and strategies to provide the VPXHC with a synthetic turf surface.

The Town undertook community engagement, including three workshops attended by 134 people, an online and hardcopy survey completed by 379 people, a quick poll with 2,209 votes, 142 questions answered and 32 ideas shared. The final Report contains a site assessment of alternative locations, and a comprehensive summary of all feedback received.

What's happening now?

At the Ordinary Council Meeting held on the 10 October 2017, an alternate motion was carried unanimously that Harold Rossiter Reserve and Raphael Park are not suitable locations for a synthetic turf facility for the VPXHC. These locations will not be considered in future investigations.

The Town of Victoria Park Council is committed to continue working with the VPXHC together with the community and other stakeholders to investigate alternative locations and strategies for a synthetic turf facility for the VPXHC, and that the Town’s Public Open Space Strategy inform this investigation.

How can you be involved, find out more or provide feedback?

Community engagement has concluded for this project. You can however find out more information by reading the FAQ'S and the information in the document library.



The Town of Victoria Park is currently exploring a range of opportunities and strategies to provide the Victoria Park Xavier Hockey Club (VPXHC) with a synthetic turf hockey field to complement the grass hockey fields they train and play on.

The VPXHC is one of Perth's largest hockey clubs with more than 600 members; making it one of the Town’s largest sporting group. From its junior Minkey program through to experienced players, the club caters for players of all ages and abilities.

Throughout Australia, hockey is now predominantly played on synthetic turf surfaces. The Town has acknowledged that if VPXHC is to remain competitive and sustainable they require a synthetic turf field.

In 2015 the Town decided to explore the feasibility of building a new synthetic turf field for the Club. A feasibility study completed in 2015 identified Harold Rossiter Reserve as a potential location for a new field, which resulted in the development of a business case to aid decision-making.

Council made a resolution at its meeting on 11 July 2017 to receive the business case, and investigate additional locations and strategies to provide the VPXHC with a synthetic turf surface.

The Town undertook community engagement, including three workshops attended by 134 people, an online and hardcopy survey completed by 379 people, a quick poll with 2,209 votes, 142 questions answered and 32 ideas shared. The final Report contains a site assessment of alternative locations, and a comprehensive summary of all feedback received.

What's happening now?

At the Ordinary Council Meeting held on the 10 October 2017, an alternate motion was carried unanimously that Harold Rossiter Reserve and Raphael Park are not suitable locations for a synthetic turf facility for the VPXHC. These locations will not be considered in future investigations.

The Town of Victoria Park Council is committed to continue working with the VPXHC together with the community and other stakeholders to investigate alternative locations and strategies for a synthetic turf facility for the VPXHC, and that the Town’s Public Open Space Strategy inform this investigation.

How can you be involved, find out more or provide feedback?

Community engagement has concluded for this project. You can however find out more information by reading the FAQ'S and the information in the document library.



CLOSED: This discussion has concluded.
  • This is my first view of this opportunity so perhaps these comments are old hat. Firstly, Had this turf proposal been considered in conjunction with, or be able to be dovetailed into, the proposed "unique events and entertainment facility for Perth and...world-class sporting, entertainment and community precinct" redevelopment around Belmont Park? From the Dave Lanfear consultants report - it appeared this location was not even tabled (other than Balbuk Reserve). Is this location privately held and/or have planning decisions already been made on the development of Belmont Park? The location and concentration of multiple sports in this already designated location "Burswood Peninsula" makes sense to me. Secondly, The Taylor Reserve site borders the City of South Perth. For a number of years the Wesley South Perth Hockey Club/South Perth Cricket club have had other competing community interests seeking encroachments into the Richardson Park playing fields. Namely, the proposed South Perth Rail station from the west and Zoo infrastructure expansion from the east. If these other community interests were considered and Richardson Park sacrificed for their benefit, then an alternate location would be needed for the WASPs Hockey club and South Perth Cricket Club. The grassed open space (largely unchanged) on the South Perth foreshore to the west of Ellam Street would be sufficient area for both hockey and cricket (and possibly both WASPs and Vic Park) at different times of year. All year usage. Furthermore, a shared location and club facilities between Vic Park hockey, WASPs hockey and South Perth Cricket Club is likely to provide a maximised efficiency of use, cost sharing amongst clubs and councils, and a collaboration of two adjacent local governments with community facilities straddling the common boundary. If the Barnett council amalgamation had occurred, this would be the case anyway. I note the consultants comments on this site "Passive and restricted recreation is considered appropriate for this reserve." Four wheel drive, caravan, camping and horse riding shows are not particularly passive in my view. Interestingly, Taylor Road Reserve is not connected to the Swan river, as commercial (government) buildings divide the river from the reserve anyway. Just a couple of ideas for others to consider in this forum. Thanks

    Jez asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Jez.

    Dave Lanfear report investigates parks and reserves owned or in trust within the Town borders. Alternative strategies are being investigated by Tina Ackerman. This includes partnering opportunities with state departments, neighbouring councils and private land owners.

    Taylor Road Reserve is a location that has been identified by the community and included as a recommendation in the community engagement report.


  • Hi Your thoughts, I have recently heard two things that concern me in relation to the, in my opinion, extremely poorly thought through idea of giving Harold Rossiter Reserve to the VicPark/Xavier old boys hockey. And I would like to seek some kind of clarification. Thanks in anticipation of your help. The two things I have heard are. First, in order that the proposed grass hockey fields are playable at Harold Rossiter. The amount of water that would be require to make them playable would change the level of the water table in the local area, such that contaminated water from the adjacent sand pit would leach into the water being used to irrigate the pitches,and surrounding reserve. The consequence of this would apparently be that the pitches would be considered unsafe for junior hockey. Presumably it would also be unsafe for non hockey playing children to use the pitches for anything else too. The second thing I have heard is that the Mayor thinks he has come up with some kind of brilliant compromise plan to put the artificial turf on Kent street High school's fields, with the grass pitches being put on Harold Rossiter. In the light of these two things that I have heard. I would like to ask. Can you please reassure me that those working at the council are doing their job with sufficient due diligence to make themselves aware of potentially serious issues relating to the concept of giving the Harold Rossiter reserve to the hockey club ? I would also like to make the following comments. 1. So far it appears to me that, rather than the hockey club approaching the council to ask the council to help them to explore sensible viable appropriate options for them to grow as a club, which I would personally be happy to support. The hockey club seems to have asked the council to give them Harold Rositter reserve, and the council has done everything it possibly can to simply give it to them, regardless of how poorly thought through that idea might be. 2. Should the Mayor proceed in pursuing a compromise idea to locate an artificial grass surface at Kent street high school, and give Harold Rossiter reserve over to grass hockey pitches. Only to find that he had granted the club the use of a facility that the club's future, namely it's junior teams, couldn't even use. He might just find that, in the face of the huge body of feedback and evidence that any promise to give Harold Rossiter to the hockey club, would be foolhardy. His Mayoral legacy might be that of being seen as some kind of incompetent laughing stock who had managed to sculpt a hugely expensive white elephant to rival the huge prawns bananas and rams seen around the country . Rather than as a person who the community in Victoria Park could consider to have been a wise and thoughtful champion of the Town. Kind Regards, Paul C.

    Paul C asked over 2 years ago

    Good morning Paul. Thank you for your questions. The information in your questions is incorrect. There has been no decision to relocate VPXHC to Harold Rossiter Reserve. The Town is investigating alternative location and strategies which they will present to council in October.


  • Could you please clarify what grade synthetic turf pith is being planned? There are comprehensive studies from hockey wa that show if the pitch is designed to be of first grade quality (clubs arguement they needed this to reduce losing players to other clubs), then using it for other sports cannot occur (the clubs lease plan to finance it)as it damages the quality down to a social grade level. In addition, vic park is a location in proximity not only to curtin uni hockey but also too: aquinas (own artificial turf, Wesley (artificial turf) & trinity. All are huge hockey based schools Offering substantial scholarships. Studies have been done on culture of hockey )I can provide on request) that club numbers decking given it's a 'tradition sport' kids play based on parents etc, then join the school clubs & transition to the prestigious university clubs where they remain. They return back to club based more at a veteran/retire Level. Given this, can you please provide data that will back the arguement that this proposal will help retain players in the club & be financially viable for the club long term, given the locations being considered are up Against all these already developed & well established schools/uni's? As opposed to considering sites with less demand eg Belmont, or in the sporting precinct of Burswood?

    frogziii asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your question.

    No consideration has been given to the grade of synthetic turf that will be provided as there has been no decision as to whether the potential relocation of the club will be progressed to the next phase. If Council determines that the project will progress to the next phase detailed design work (including options regarding the grade of turf) would be included in the scope of the project.

    The Business Case, which is available in the document library provides evidence regarding the financially viability of the Club in the long term.

    Hockey WA, who were represented on the project team, provided advice in regards to declining membership at clubs that do not have ready access to a synthetic turf. Please contact Hockey WA directly if you require the data that supports this claim.

    The VPXHC has provided anecdotal evidence that indicates their declining membership numbers are due in part to members moving to clubs that have ready access to a synthetic turf.

  • Hi Tina as you are aware I asked a question at the last council meeting,,,Are you going to sack your lead consultant,,, I understand this may not be in the best interest of the Council and VPXHC but it certainly is for the ToVP ratepayers. I refered to the consultant who at the third workshop explained to us the real reason we were there was to do with Harold Rossiter (backlash i suppose he didnt go into detail) when asked by John Mamo to rewind to a picture of Harold Rossiter and then when he did he was asked to show where the Kensington Bushland is,,,This is a protected very special piece of bush and enviromentaly sensitive,,,He admitted he didnt know after we all started to laugh when he pointed roughly to the sandpit,, at least he didnt pretend and then look like a complete fool,,,John Mamo who had asked him the question then asked how he could lead a team that scored Harold Rossiter on an enviromental level the same as other parks when he didnt even know where the Kensington Bushland is,,,, When I asked the question in Council meeting you answered that you had spoken with the consultant and he had told you he had misunderstood the question,,,I wasnt allowed to say anything back so was silenced but i had the chance to talk with you during the 15min break,, You said you had missed the whole thing and when you asked him about it after the workshop he told you he misunderstood the question,,, at the end of the night when he was going around asking people about their summary of the night I stated the highlight of the evening for me was when John asked him to recall the picture of Harold Rossiter and he could not show where the bushland was and he smiled sheepishly and agreed,,,,,Now how can he say he misunderstood the question,,,,If i ask a question of a consultant and he doesn't understand should he not say he cant quite understand the question and ask for a bit more explaination which we sure would have given him,,, ,My other question to you is why did you ask him about it if you didnt see it,,,,All the people on John Mamo's table saw it ,,I saw it , my mother was also a witness as was the lady sitting next to me,,,,its a bit hard to beleive he could not understand a simple question like that,, why would you have him running seminars if he cant understand simple questions,,how is he going to be with the hard ones,,it makes no sense,,,,Can you please confirm whether he knew where the Kensington Bushland was or is he still sticking to the story of not understanding a simple question,, My second question to council was how many members of VPXHC are actual ratepayers of ToVP,, Stuart Lamont misquoted it at the workshop and said 45% of 600 members,,,I corrected him that these were approximates so he should say approximate,,,you also answered the question at the council meeeting with the same numbers and I had to correct you also that you should say approximate,,,,when can I expect an answer,,,I dont think I should have to state it but I want ToVP ratepayers only, not surrounding areas,, Also why was the consultant not aware when he said we could have had someone there that we had asked and been refused for someone from the Harold Rossiter Adction Group to answer questions on behalf of the Action Group in a role exactly like Stuart Lamont was allowed to attend all three workshops,, Stuart stated no trees will be removed, can you give him that copy/paste answer you give me everytime about how no decision has been made to move it to Harold Rossiter Blah Blah Blah,,like when the Mayor said it at a council meeting which you agree is at the very least incorrect if not an outright lie,,,as stated earlier Stuart also misquoted numbers by not saying they were approximates

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    The consultant, who is aware of where the Kensington Bushland is, raised the point while workshop participants were working at their tables on the assessment exercise.

    The report that is presented to Council in October will refer to the number of Club members that are residents of the Town.

    I have spoken with the project team and can confirm that the HRRCAG were not refused to attend the workshops as a representative. Participants who registered for two or more workshops were informed that they could only register for one workshop due to participant numbers.

  • The assessment of all 70 of the Town’s reserves was not included in the scope of the project undertaken by AECOM. As such the assessment undertaken by Dave Lanfear Consulting has been far more thorough then that undertaken by AECOM.,,,,,,ARE YOU SERIOUS,,, Do AECOM not know the boundaries of the Kensington Bushland either,,,,You can honestly state because he looked at more sites his report was more in depth,,,Dave Lanfear doesnt know where the boundaries are for Kensington Bushland ,,LET THAT SINK IN

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your statement Pat.

  • It was mentioned at community consultation Kent st high school being considered as a site. Could you please clarify: A) how is the community impact being studied with regards to noise/lighting for residents? Given it is still in a highly ur amused part of town B) this would be again,another duplication of resources given Como shs just down the road is already established hockey specialist school. Can the town please confirm the REASON WHY Como has not yet been considered? I was told by a hockey player it was because the club may have to drop down to two grass pitches. I wish to have the reason verified because if this is the case then a complete duplication of resources where the school may not even get hockey numbers to cover this seems very very high risk with council/ratepayers having to cover the very likely chance of shortfall.

    frogziii asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your question. There is a number of conversations taking place to discuss alternative locations and strategies. There has been no decision to eliminate any stakeholders during these conversations.

  • Questions re OCM 11 July 2017: 1. OCM 11 July 2017 p.194 -what are the other users referred too? Will these users contribute to the capital set up costs? 2. OCM 11 July 2017 p.195 -reference to dwindling members of VPXHC. The business case infers the retiring members have joining clubs with astro turf. As there are very few clubs with astro-turf (refer Business Case Section 4.1) can the ToVP advise what the uplift has been in with club with astro turf. I seek to confirm that the VPXHC membership reduction is not merely reduced interest. 3. OCM 11 July 2017p.188-p.192: The proposed mitigation /actions are in many instances just prosed process. For instance, implementing a Community Plan will not solve ‘community outrage’. Can the ToVP please expand on these proposed mitigations? 4. What was the basis for the ToVP taking a divergent view to City of South Perth re this proposed development? (Business case Appendix A “...they did not feel the development of a facility of this nature was the role of local government, which should focus on greater/wider community access and programs.”). 5. Given the above How can ToVP explain the divergent view in the Business case “….to seek co shared funding from City of South Perth and others”). 6. Harold Rossiter: Can the ToVP please explain its rationale for displacing the Soccer Club in favour of VPXHC is the proposal goes ahead? Where would ToVP propose to relocate the Soccer Club? What is proposed for the Cricket Club?

    over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your questions Karen (via email 3/09/2017)

    1. Extract From Minutes - This entity would manage all aspects specific to the synthetic turf, including invoicing all user groups (VPXHC included).
      If the query is in reference to the sentence above that has been extracted from the minutes, no, these user groups would not contribute to the capital set up costs. The fees that they would be charged for the hire of the facility would contribute to the maintenance, renewal and upgrade of the facility.

    2. Hockey WA have advised that all clubs with synthetic turfs have realised an increase in membership, with some realising a significant increase e.g. Melville City Hockey Club. That said, like all clubs, the Victoria Park Xavier Hockey Club’s declining membership numbers will be impacted by people moving, quitting playing hockey all together and various other reasons, including the lack of synthetic turf.

    3. Please advise which action/mitigation strategy you would like to know more about. Alternatively, please call Tina Ackerman at the Town on 9311 8111 to discuss this further.
    4. The Town of Victoria Park has a role to play in supporting community based sporting clubs, such as the hockey club. The Town is unable to comment on the City of South Perth’s stance on this issue.
    5. This is a position encouraged by the Department of Local Government, Sport and Cultural Industries, who contribute to community based sporting infrastructure.
    6. Currently there are seven soccer clubs in the Town, based at five reserves. Co-locating clubs that play the same sport is manageable and more cost effective.
    7. Hockey and cricket can be co-located.

  • At last night's Community Workshop the ToVP alluded to almost 10 other options currently being considered to meet the requirements of the VPXHC. This does call in to question the value of the Workshops to consider 4 specific sites when the ToVP is already considering other options, which the community is not privy too. However, when will these options be made open to the community and will the community be consulted?

    karen bateman asked over 2 years ago

    At the 11 July 2017 Ordinary Council Meeting a recommendation to investigate alternative locations and strategies was endorsed. This has been progressed in two phases:

    • Alternative locations on Town owned/managed reserves, which has been the focus of the work being undertaken by Dave Lanfear Consulting.

    • Exploration of strategies to relocate the Club to a site that is not owned or managed by the Town. All options that have been explored, even those that no further consideration will be given to, will be referred to in the report that is presented to Council.

    If it is considered that there are viable options that have been identified as part of the two phase process any recommendation to Council would include reference to the need for a thorough community engagement process.

    Thank you,

    Tina Ackerman


  • 1 The Dave Lanfear report scoring system gives different results to those described in the AECOM business case Please explain which results the ToVP considers now most relevant and which we should be using for consideration , especially given the variance between the two reports and previous ToVP statements. 2. The Dave Lanfear report overturns several of the premises which the ToVP had previously stated regarding the Astro turf and pitches solution. For example: - McCullam Park is not viable, when previously the indication was that the site was being considered as an alternative. - Raphael Park comes up to one of the top 4 possible sites, when previously it was scored as one of the lowest possible choices. Can ToVP please explain this? Are we to now suppose that the ToVP does not place reliance on the AECOM business case report?

    karen bateman asked over 2 years ago

    The assessment of all 70 of the Town’s reserves was not included in the scope of the project undertaken by AECOM. As such the assessment undertaken by Dave Lanfear Consulting has been far more thorough then that undertaken by AECOM.

    Thank you,

    Tina Ackerman


  • 1. What are the professional credentials of Dave Lanfear Consulting? 2 What was the assessment process to choose Dave Lanfear for this engagement ? Why were AECOM not asked for further clarification instead?

    karen bateman asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Karen. Please find the below the answers to your question.

    • Dave Lanfear credentials can be viewed on his website www.davelanfearconsulting.com.au
    • The assessment was based on capacity, experience, understanding of scope of project, ability to meet deadline, knowledge of the Town’s active and passive reserves.
    • Aecom were not asked for further clarification as this is a different project that undertook an assessment of all 70 reserves in the Town, which was not in the scope of works of the project that AECOM were engaged to undertake.

    Thank you,

    Tina Ackerman

  • What seems to have come out of the forum that i was present at is; Higgins- seems very suitable, but would need an upgrade to the club rooms. The junior AFL team would have to be relocated (maybe Fletcher or HRR). No upgrades needed to parking either. HRR- seems suitable, but would need an environmental assessment. No upgrades needed to parking or the club house, so it was be the most affordable option. Taylor reserve- looks great, but would cost a fair bit more given there are no facilities Fletcher park- would work, but relocating a premier cricket ground would be too difficult. Couldn't believe there are 6 or 7 soccer teams in the town that occupy 5 reserves for a total 16 teams. Hopefully a suitable location is found so they can stay in the town of Vic Park

    George asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your statement George.

  • It seems apparent that ANY hockey development will need to take into consideration the medium to long term goals of hockey players...ie to have ALL grass fields converted to astro turf within 20 years. (God help us if this does happen due to heat effects in our warming climate). However does the ToVP not agree that in order to protect our ever shrinking green spaces and the costs of this establishment, that it would be prudent to factor this matter in to current assessments in order to make a sound long term decision? It appears obvious that the development if it goes ahead anywhere should be placed in the equivalent of an industrial zone...certainly not in recreational green spaces.

    Narelle asked over 2 years ago

    There has been no decision to relocate VPXHC to any of the parks and reserves. Reports will be provided to elected members in October for their review and decision. Further investigations will be complete depending on their decision.

  • It has been mentioned by hockey club members during the consultation process that astro is the way of the future...that IN 20 YEARS TIME ALL HOCKEY FIELDS WILL BE ASTRO. So, wherever the hockey goes, within 20 years it can be expected all fields provided will be converted to astro. Imagine 4 astro turfs at Harold Rossiter (or anywhere else they go)!..the heat island (continent) effect that would have and affects on the bushland. Has that been factored in to ToVP's consultant's assessments and have the community been alerted to this fact so that they can take this into account in all their feedback?

    Narelle asked over 2 years ago

    No Narelle. The proposed synthetic turf is for one synthetic turf and not four. Any future development will require environmental investigation.

  • Dan Lanfear Consulting's assessment report appears to only short-list sites that are considered able to contain all anticipated VPXHC facilities - (1) synthetic turf fields, (up to 3) grass fields and a clubhouse - in one location. Why has no apparent consideration been given to the reasonable combination of two locations within Town, such as continuing clubhouse and grass field use of Fletcher Park and the addition of a synthetic turf and second grass pitch with an ablution block on Charles Paterson Park (Craig St side), without a doubt the least used park or reserve within the Town? The West Coast Eagles will somehow manage to train in one town location with two ovals and play matches at another town location with two ovals only a few kilometres away. I suspect that families who live in rural and bush areas that drive hundreds of kilometres a week to get their children to sports training and matches would love to have that kind of convenient access.

    Scruffer asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your question. The Town is currently investigating alternative strategies which includes partnering oppertunities as well as split locations.

  • Why was I not told of this going on, How about you get your crew to do some door knocking and lets us know? I don't want it, the noise the cars and the destruction of our beautiful Park, my vote is for a NO, stick it elsewhere, but not on my doorstep.

    Hockey pitch asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your statement. There has been no decision to relocate VPXHC to any of the Town's reserves or parks. The Town is currently investigating alternative strategies and locations.

  • Where is the money coming from, I suppose my rates will shoot up again next year, how about they use the new stadium, that will be idle at most times.

    Hockey pitch asked over 2 years ago

    There has been no decision to relocate the VPXHC. The Town is currently investigating alternative locations and straegies.

  • As at 6th September,2017 to date the residents surrounding the Raphael Park have not received VPC information flyers promised at Monday evenings Workshop. I am concerned the lateness of providing information to residents & ratepayers may negatively Impact on VPC ability to make transparent and informed decisions on behalf of residents rate payers & other paying and non paying stakeholders Today I spoke to the Principles of 3 Raphael precinct schools plus the administrator of another school in the area. I am alarmed to be informed that our school Principles had not been told about VPC shortlisting Raphael Park as one of the four sites being considered as a site for the relocation of Victoria Park Xavier Hockey Club. Consequently they were not aware of this weeks workshops and the proposed development of club rooms , synthetic turf field and at least another three grass fields. This lack of informing these important stakeholders greatly concerns me . Transparency and consultation seems to be minimal and therefore informed and equitable outcomes are jeopardised . These schools , their families and students constantly use Raphael Park and are all mportant stakeholders.

    Narelle Hall asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your statement Narelle. This information has been passed to the Project Manager and the Communications and Marketing team.

  • 4. What was the basis for the ToVP taking a divergent view to City of South Perth re this proposed development? (Business case Appendix A “...they did not feel the development of a facility of this nature was the role of local government, which should focus on greater/wider community access and programs.”)

    over 2 years ago

    The Town supports local community based clubs in a variety of ways, including the provision of infrastructure. We are not in a position to comment on the City of South Perth’s position on this matter.


  • Given the below How can ToVP explain the divergent view in the Business case “….to seek co shared funding from City of South Perth and others”).

    over 2 years ago

    The City of South Perth has advised that they are open to a conversation in regards to this matter.

  • Harold Rossiter: Can the ToVP please explain its rationale for displacing the Soccer Club in favour of VPXHC is the proposal goes ahead? Where would ToVP propose to relocate the Soccer Club? What is proposed for the Cricket Club?

    over 2 years ago

    Hi Karen.

    There are seven soccer clubs training and playing on five parks/reserves throughout the Town. Collocating clubs with the same requirements (e.g. pitch size) can be accommodated if the hockey club were to be relocated.

    The potential relocation of the hockey club would not impact the cricket club that is based at Harold Rossiter Park.


  • OCM 11 July 2017 p.195 -reference to dwindling members of VPXHC. The business case infers the retiring members have joining clubs with astro turf. As there are very few clubs with astro-turf (refer Business Case Section 4.1) can the ToVP advise what the uplift has been in with club with astro turf. I seek to confirm that the VPXHC membership reduction is not merely reduced interest.

    over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your question Karen. The decrease in membership can be attributed in part to members leaving VPXHC to join clubs that have a synthetic turf.


  • Hi your thoughts. As I have read through some of the posts here. I have noticed that there have been observations made about misinformation etc. My own view is that this site is of great value, as it gives me the chance to hear directly and in public from you as the “voice “of the TofVP. Particularly in relation to the issues that surround the possible support from the TofVP for the VicPark/Xavier hockey club, in regard to their of hope for relocation/upgrading of facilities. So, I would like to say thank you for this forum. I must admit I haven’t ever paid much attention to the work TofVP does until now. However, whether correct or not, some of the information I have heard about this subject has made me greatly concerned about just exactly is going on? To help me get accurately abreast of the ins and outs of this topic I would be most grateful if you could answer the following questions and field the following comments. Thanks, in anticipation of your help. I have heard that the City of Belmont council has at some time past liaised with either both TofVP and the VicPark/Xavier hockey club, or one or the other. And offered to work in partnership with them to create a first class shared hockey facility that would meet the physical requirements that VicPark/Xavier hockey club believe they need to expand as they hope . I have also heard interestingly, that geographically this would in fact require the hockey club to physically move a much shorter distance to this new facility than they would have to move, to relocate to Harold Rossiter reserve. Further, I have heard that because this would be a collaborative project, TofVP would be much less financially exposed should they choose to become involved in it. Finally, I have heard that the primary reason the hockey club have tried to avoid this choice, is that they are concerned about their “identity”. Whilst I am happy to accept that all of the above information that I have heard, in fact may be wrong. I am concerned that it may be true. Clearly here is the best place for me and others to become cognisant of the realities. So, in relation to the above I would like to ask the following questions. 1, Is it true that there has at some past time, been some kind of contact between the City of Belmont council and the TofVP and or VicPark/Xavier hockey club, regarding a proposed shared facility? If So. 2, What were the limitations in relation to the expansion proposed there, that has led the TofVP to fail to undertake a business case for that proposal? 3, Is it true, regardless of which jurisdiction the new first class upgraded shared facility that I hear has been suggested lay. Whether that be either TofVP, or the City of Belmont. The hockey club would in fact be required to move a shorter distance to the new shared facility than they would have to move to use Harold Rossiter reserve? 4, Can you please confirm for me that concerns expressed by the VicPark/Xavier hockey club regarding their “identity” should they have to move to a shared facility, do not play a significant part in TofVP choosing to engage in a process that could lead to the TofVP spend large sums of rate payers money? Thanks as previously.

    Paul C asked over 2 years ago

    There has been no formal correspondence relating to this project between City of Belmont, Town of Victoria Park and VPXHC.

    If Council determines that the potential relocation of the hockey club  is a project that they would like to consider further a thorough consultation process will be undertaken.


  • Questions: 1. I have heard that Councillor Oliver has close links to a member/members of the Vic Park/Xavier hockey club. Regardless of whether or not this is correct. Can you please clarify for me whether or not Councillor Oliver actually asked/suggested that the Hockey Club be given the specific opportunity to make a presentation to support their case at one of the community workshops ? 2. Is Councillor Oliver standing for re-election in the Council elections coming up in late October ? 3. Is there someone called Bronwyn Ife, who, so far as I am aware has got no personal relationship with the hockey club also standing in the next Council elections?

    over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your question. The Town’s Elected Members are individuals who operate separately to the Town’s administration, we cannot speak for them and we suggest you contact them individually to clarify the above.

    Nominations for candidates open on the 7th September and close on the 14th September. Election day is the 21st of October.

    Victoria Park Xavier Hockey Club will not be presenting at any of the community workshops.

  • With ONE DAY left before the workshop it is sad to see that only 4 or 5 community groups were included in the 22 organisations contacted by you. And these included HRRCAG (!) and Friends of Kensington Bushland (!). The rest were sporting clubs. What about Victoria Park Connect (Homestead), Transition Victoria Park and more effort to contact passive users of the space please? However it is now too late. ou promoted this to (of the 22 I think total)

    Narelle asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your suggestion Narelle. Connect were contacted by their stakeholder manager and invited. An email has also been forwarded to the Vic Park Transition Network. If you have any other suggestions, let us know :)

  • Why this park ? We all know that red tails were released there last year and are endangered. It's so frustrating when you are trying to do the right thing to save a species and this sort of thing happens. Wake up and put our wild life first !

    sharon asked over 2 years ago

    There has been no decision to relocate VPXHC to any of the Town's park's or reserve's.

  • You say the Town will contribute up to one third of the cost - with the club able to pay $500,000. How much is the Town thinking of contributing and is this inclusive of costs so far (consultants fees, workshop costs etc)?

    Lfrehner asked over 2 years ago

    The third financial contribution would be the contribution for installation expense. No project costs have been finalised at this stage. This is all yet to be determined as the project has not been approved to go ahead.


  • By your own admission, this has been an issue for over two years. Why wait till crisis point when the Town should have been consulting Belmont, Canning, South Perth, and City of Perth to identify appropriate land for a 3-5 hectare hockey stadium/centre, and promote a collaborative approach including shared costs? There are less than 250 members of this hockey club who are ToVP ratepayers and no doubt they would be willing to travel a few KM for a brand new stadium. Might make ratepayers in other local authorities happy too.

    L McGrath asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your suggestion Lynne. The Town is investigation alternative locations and strategies.

    If you haven't already registered for the community workshop we still have available spots for the 7th September 2017.

  • What financial return is the Town expecting in the way of leasing fees or rates in return for the investment into turf, or will it be another Eagles peppercorn deal for $10 and 'community engagement'?

    Lfrehner asked over 2 years ago

    There has been no decision to relocate VPXHC and therefore no lease arrangements have been made.

  • Thank you for the reply that hard copies of the second survey are available at the council's Administration building and outstations. However, not everyone is familiar with office jargon. What are outstations? Where are these 'outstations' located?

    Loris asked over 2 years ago

    I apologise Loris. Hard copy surveys are located at the following:

    • Town of Victoria Park, 99 Shepperton Road Victoria Park
    • Leisurelife Centre
    • Aqualife Centre
    • Town of Victoria Park Library
  • Now that the second survey is up - a much more relevant poll I believe for the people of Victoria Park, so I thank you for that. At least it identifies other parks that maybe in the mix. My question is, what happens to voices of the people who don't have a computer to do the survey on-line? Have you considered having hard copies of the survey available at the Council office or the Library for the non computer literate to fill out? There are a number of elderly residents in my location who do not have computers and have only been made aware at this late date that Raphael Park is also in the mix. Residents who use that iconic park as their main source for relaxation & exercise. They want to have their say and not be excluded from community consultation as they don't or can't read or have access to websites. Please be inclusive and make hard copies available for such residents.

    Loris asked over 2 years ago

    Great question Loris. We actually have some hard copy surveys at the Administration building and outstations. We want to include and engage with all of our community.

  • With reference to your below response...Can you please tell me a list of which clubs and community groups have been contacted? Thank you. The communications and marketing strategy has a number of stages that are being actioned on a daily basis. Today a letter drop was sent to surrounding residents of the shortlisted reserves. We have also advertised in Southern Gazette, weekly Facebook posts, Posters dropped at local cafe's, signs and posted at clubrooms, parks and reserves and individual invitations to local community groups and sporting clubs.

    RWG asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your question. Please find a list of sporting clubs and community groups as requested.

    • Carlisle Cricket Club
    • South Perth Junior Cricket Club
    • Perth Demons Football Club
    • Curtin Victoria Park Cricket Club
    • Perth Training and Obedience Dog Club
    • Curtin University Football Club
    • Victoria Park Soccer Club
    • Perth Royals Football Club
    • Coastal Breakers Gaelic Football Club
    • Victoria Park Raiders Junior Football Club
    • Fraser Park F.C.
    • Emerald FC
    • Carlisle Amateur Football Club
    • Beverley Football Club
    • Perth Angels Football Club
    • Shamrock Rovers
    • Friends of Kensington Bushland
    • Victoria Park Community Garden
    • Vic Park Collective
    • Friends of G O Edwards
    • Calisle Rate Payers Association
    • HRRCAG

    if you feel we have missed any sporting club's or community group's, please let us know by emailing hockey@vicpark.wa.gov.au and we will contact them.



  • Why are ToVP considering building a hockey turf when there is already one at Curtain University which is a top level stadium? And will our rates go up again if this proposal goes ahead? Why should we fund a sporting stadium that can only be used for one sport?

    Patricia Beard asked over 2 years ago

    There has been no decision to relocate VPXHC. The Town is currently investigating alternative locations and strategies for a potential hockey facility (not stadium).

    The Town has (and continues to) discuss opportunities with Curtin University and Hockey WA for the Victoria Park Xavier Hockey Club to be relocated to the Perth Hockey Stadium (the site you are referring to). Currently community based clubs, such as the Victoria Park Xavier Hockey Club, are provided limited access to the facility due to the needs of Hockey WA and Curtin University. That said, discussions are continuing.

    Local Government Authorities are responsible for the provision of infrastructure for community based sporting clubs.


  • hi guys, think the new survey is great and will lead to a bunch of great information being gathered. A quick question in regards to schedule and decision timing. after the workshops there will obviously be a bunch of work to be done before a decision to either not build or to build a hockey turf is made but I'm curious as to: a) when the yes or no (to build a facility) decision will be made?, b) what are the criteria for that decision process (ie financial, community input, logistical, schedule, etc)?, and c) who is involved in evaluating and making the decision? cheers =)

    owneroperator asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your question. A community engagement report and independent consultant findings will be presented to the council to consider at their October meeting.

  • If I was to say that No trees will be removed at Harold Rossiter if the Hockey proposal goes ahead would you say this is misinformation

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    There has been no decision to relocate the VPXHC to Harold Rossiter Reserve.

  • And now that the second poll IS up...I would like to point out that apart from a few signs around HRR park, and maybe a couple of other parks in the last week or so there has been nothing done prior to this week to inform the local community about the fact that there is a potential astro turf development being considered for the ToVP. How would the local community get to hear about this in order to register for 'Community Workshops' meant to represent their views? This process is so flawed that it is meaningless. Please explain, Mr Vuleta.

    Narelle asked over 2 years ago

    The communications and marketing strategy has a number of stages that are being actioned on a daily basis. Today a letter drop was sent to surrounding residents of the shortlisted reserves. We have also advertised in Southern Gazette, weekly Facebook posts, Posters dropped at local cafe's, signs and posted at clubrooms, parks and reserves and individual invitations to local community groups and sporting clubs.


  • Question for Mr Tony Vuleta, CEO of ToVP It seems that the ToVP have decided to put up a second Survey to gather the input from ToVP residents and ratepayers on their thoughts...so that we know what the local community feel. Would it not also have been a very insightful move to require those people doing the first poll to have to have declared whether they are a hockey player/supporter as well? Considering the capacity of the club to easily encourage all members and followers to vote for the development, when so many people I have found who live nearby do not even know of this development, let alone know that they could have had a vote against it. This is a very biased process, would you not agree, Mr Vuleta...particularly considering the fact that the ToVP has kept this so tighly 'under wraps' that not only local residents, but the local adjacent Friends of Kensington Bushland had absolutely no idea about this development until this June...despite the fact that we interact with the Council continuously about this area of land.

    Narelle asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your statement. A second survey has not been uploaded. A more thorough community survey will be uploaded this evening. Watch this space.

  • Mr Vuleta, For the same reasons as I outlined earlier, the second poll could be affected in the same way eg Considering the capacity of the club to easily encourage all members and followers to vote for the development, when so many people I have found who live nearby do not even know of this development, let alone know that they could have had a vote against it. This is a very biased process, would you not agree, Mr Vuleta...particularly considering the fact that the ToVP has kept this so tighly 'under wraps'. Could the ToVP please add a field to the second poll, so that it can be determined what percentage of respondents are hockey players/supporters? Many thanks

    Narelle asked over 2 years ago

    Narelle there is no second poll.

  • When you told me to contact the Mayor I did,,,,How long will it take for the Mayor to answer the question or at least return my email,,,,will it be before the workshop or maybe before they develop Harold Rossiter

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    The Town’s Elected Members are individuals who operate separately to the Town’s administration, we cannot speak for them and we suggest you contact them individually to clarify their opinions and ideas. Perhaps a follow up email or a reminder email will assist.

  • Can we change the question in the quick poll to whether to have a Astro turf facility in the ToVP or whether to have a shared facility with another council,,,I find this question in the poll to be very misleading ,,Is the council not going to build a facility if the vote goes against it,,,also just to let you know this online poll can be rigged very easily just ask anybody that knows computers,,,are you aware of this or do you not have any computer consultants to advise you on these matters

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your suggestion. The quick poll can not be altered as 1,720 have voted.

    The Quick Poll that you refer to will be complemented by a more detailed survey that will be available on the Town’s website by close of business Wednesday 30 August 2017. All community engagement methods (survey, quick poll, workshops) results will be provided to council for their consideration.

    I will also confirm further comments with the service provider of Engagement HQ.

  • I understand that the community includes all who live/work/visit the town. My question is how do those who DON'T live in the town/pay rates in the town have equal voice (with those who DO) to how the town spends funds? Where is the justification for this?

    owneroperator asked over 2 years ago

    A detailed survey will be available on the Town’s website by close of business Wednesday 30 August 2017. The survey requires participants to provide their residential address, which will be considered when collating the responses and reporting to Council.

    In addition, Community Workshops being held next week will also require participants to provide their residential address, which will be considered when collating the information gathered and reporting to Council.


  • When you say 'community ' you are being VERY MISLEADING...even the most cynical of us would never have suspected that your community could include anyone who lives even in Alaska!! Whereas for residents and ratepayers of the Town (paying your wages and for all our facilities) to have any input we are restricted to ensuring everyone who has a voice lives in this Council area. What I would like the Council to do is to start afresh with all this 'community ' consultation and restrict ALL input to that of resident/ratepayers...otherwise this process is totally meaningless. I call on Anthony Vuleta, CEO, to restrict community input to that of resident/ratepayers, who have to live in this town. Please reply Mr Vuleta.

    Dougo asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Narelle.

    The community consultation is open to all users of parks and reserves within the Town. The local community is in fact a large number of communities which includes residents (land owners and tenants), Ratepayers (owner-occupiers, investors and businesses) and people who conduct activities within the Town (people who come to the Town for work, tourism, leisure or for other reasons). Community consultation cannot be limited to rate payers and residents only.

    The quick poll is intended to be an indicator of the general community perception of support or otherwise for the potential development of a synthetic turf. The results of the poll will be included in the report to Council which is assessing alternative locations and strategies for the development of a synthetic turf – not making a decision about developing one at Harold Rossiter Park. The Quick Poll will be complemented by a more detailed survey that will be available on the Town’s website by close of business Wednesday 30 August 2017. This survey requires participants to provide their residential address, which will be considered when collating the responses and reporting to Council.

    I have also passed on your statement to the Town of Victoria Park's CEO, Anthony Vuleta for his viewing.


  • 4 days ago "What-is-True" asked “Why is the council allowing so much incorrect information to be circulated by the "Rossiter Action Group" both in terms of the "footprint" of the proposed turf and the environmental impact..." The ToVP's response to this person was that: ..."yes we are aware of the misinformation that is circulating amongst the community...." In the ToVP's response to my question asked 3 days ago and to Pat's asked 3 days ago, the ToVP clearly states "There has been no comment to suggest HRCAG has provided misinformation". Which is the correct answer? Either the Council is aware of misinformation provided (as stated to "what-is-true") by the "HRCAG" (as stated) or it is not as stated in response to my and Pat's questions. As the Council states that it is "aware" of misinformation being spread amongst the community, who is the organisation or person spreading this misinformation?

    Jota3CL asked over 2 years ago

    The Town is aware of misinformation in the community and there has been no comments from the Town to suggest a community or action group is providing misinformation. If you have a direct question regarding the investigation of alternative location and strategies for a synthetic turf please let us know.


  • How much has this proposal cost the Town so far with consultants - I see yet another external consultant has been organised?

    lizzy1970 asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your question lizzy1970.

    The total amount of consultancy expenses occurred is $42,950. This is broken down into the following:

    • Pre-Feasibility Study - $11,500
    • Preliminary Site Investigation  - $5,800
    • Business Case – $14,800 (note – in addition to the financial contribution from the Town the Department of Sport and Recreation contributed $15,000 to the development of the Business Case and the Victoria Park Xavier Hockey Club contributed $10,000)
    • Independent Assessment of All Town-Owned Reserves (currently being undertaken; funds committed) - $10,850

  • The cost estimates for the hockey pitch project are far more than the club is able to provide. Where does the council get the funds from to fill in the rest of the budget? If the budget might be filled in by council rates paid by Vic park inhabitants, I would like to see this money spend on projects from which we can all benefit and not just the local hockeyplayers. I am not pleased to pay high council rates to have a beautiful piece of nature and environment, which is used by many for recreation change into restricted access and diminishment and the subsequent outrage caused by it all in the local community. This would be an outrage in itself.

    Bodylotion asked over 2 years ago

    If a project were to progress typically the Town’s net contribution would be one third of the total cost, with the Club and other sources (e.g. the Department of Sport and Recreation) making up the remaining contribution. At this point in time the Club intends to contribute $500,000 to the project if it was to progress.

  • 1. To be meaningful, attendees at the workshop will require 7 clear days to read any report. Is the report being provided today? 2. Will the author of the report be available at all workshops?

    Kate123 asked over 2 years ago

    The consultant’s report will be uploaded on Your Thoughts on Wednesday and also personally emailed to the workshop registered participants.

    The consultant will be present at both workshop's.

  • The mayor has stated at council meeting, without any caveats, that NO TREES will be cut down. I am holding the mayor to this statement. Please let us know whether this statement is correct or incorrect. If incorrect, why was it made (without any caveats) at a formal council meeting where people would rely upon it?

    Kate123 asked over 2 years ago

    If you would like confirmation regarding the Mayor's statement, please contact him direct.

    If you have a question regarding the investigation of alternative locations and strategies for a synthetic turf please let us know.

  • Your answers to questions online makes it clear your position is misinformation has been circulated (from someone). In response to "What is true" you wrote "Thank you for your question. Yes we are aware of the misinformation that is circulating amongst the community. We are providing correct information to the public and we hope that this will reach the misinformed." “Pat” queried this and you responded "There has been no comment advising that HRCAG has provided misinformation". Please tell us (i) what you have heard, (ii) who told you; (iii) who 'circulated' the information; and (iv) why the information is wrong.

    Kate123 asked over 2 years ago

    Unfortunately Kate I can not provide further information to your question. If you have a direct question regarding the investigation of alternative location and strategies for a synthetic turf please let us know.

  • Hello Town of Victoria Park Could you please explain to me how you can possibly call the workshops you have organised on the above matter 'Community Consultation'? I do not want to hear that the 'community' is some enormous area and includes anyone from any suburb or town area in Perth...or anywhere else in the entire world, as it so happens! This Council is elected by and PAID by local ratepayers. How dare you treat us with such disdain and run a community consultation process which allows anyone from anywhere to tell us what we should have in our Council area. Shame on you! And as for your flawed Quick Poll....that once again anyone with anything to gain from this astro turf development, regardless of where they go home to, is allowed to influence... This is totally unacceptable.

    Narelle asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Narelle. Thanks for your statement.

    The local community is in fact a large number of communities which includes residents (land owners and tenants), Ratepayers (owner-occupiers, investors and businesses) and people who conduct activities within the Town (people who come to the Town for work, tourism, leisure or for other reasons). Community consultation can not be limited to rate payers and residents only.


  • Hi could you be specific and show where exactly where the Harold Rossiter Action Group has spread mis-information ,,you say you are aware of misinformation spreading in the community but dont point out it has nothing to do with the action group,,"What is true" may I ask who specifically told yopu this or did you make it up,,dont confuse a petition that states we dont want a stadium or seating with any plans for one to be built,,ToVP please ask the Mayor again why he spread misinformation and said no trees will be removed,,and that coming from head of council,,I am still waiting for a reply from him,,, Why not have a poll on whether they want hockey at harold rossiter or not,,,that is the real question,,how can a survey be yes or no on having a hockey astro turf in ToVP where you havent explained if it is not in Vic Park it will be shared,,,the question should be do you want an astro turf built in ToVP or one built in conjunction and shared with another Council like Belmont or Canning,,,are you really going to abandon any ideas for building an astro turf feild in ToVP if the poll goes against or will you just wait a while like all the previous reports on Harold Rossiter and then try again,,,,I cant see why the Hockey club should miss out on the oppurtunity to have a shared facility just because of the selfish actions of a few Hockey club members and there friends in council pushing for the best location for the club and not the community Do you know how many members of VPXHC are ratepayers of ToVP,, I mean actual numbers not approximate percentages of an approximate number,,dont they know??? Can anyone vote on this poll or is it just ToVP ratepayers Thanks Pat

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    There has been no comment advising that HRCAG has provided misinformation.

    Yes the quick poll and the workshop is open to all users of parks and reserves within the Town. This is not limited to ratepayers and residents.

  • I have heard that both the "community consultation" workshops and "quick poll" are open to anyone anywhere to be involved in. Rather than being specifically for rate payers and residents of the Town of Victoria Park, what ! Could you please confirm for me whether or not this is the case ? If this is correct, can you please explain to me how either of these activities can be considered to have any value whatsoever. Seriously if anyone anywhere in the world can log on and vote in your "quick poll" do you honestly think it reasonable to call it a poll, really ? And why can anyone from anywhere who wants to come along to a workshop. What is to stop someone trying to stack these meetings by bussing in their friends from all points to try to get the outcome they want? As an additional comment please let me say that farcical decisions like these leave me struggling to have any faith in the capacity of the council to make effective decisions about big matters such as the potential distribution of huge sums of council money to risky projects (please read the business case regarding the possible development of Harold Rossiter Reserve for hockey). I look forward to you hopefully allaying my fears in relation to the above and making me aware that the council has not been engaging in decision making processes that currently seem to me to be gravely flawed. Thanks for taking the time to address my concerns. Kind regards.

    Paul C asked over 2 years ago

    Yes the quick poll and the workshop is open to all users of parks and reserves within the Town. This is not limited to ratepayers and residents.

  • In a previous question you answered Thanks for your question. There has been no decision made to relocate VPXHC to Harold Rossiter Reserve and this is why we have not included this reserve in the quick poll. Can I point out that you have not made any decision to build an astro turf field in ToVP for VPXHC either so why are you asking that question There is a high possibility of the hockey club getting an astro turf Field and also it being at Hrold Rossiter,,please stop wasting ratepayers money and ask the real question,,,also is it true all my friend around the world can vote on this issue and if so and I have a lot more facebook friends and they all vote will you take that into consideration

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    Yes the quick poll and the workshop is open to all users of parks and reserves within the Town. This is not limited to ratepayers and residents.

  • "Narelle" asked, if this Quick Poll is open only to residents/ratepayers entitled to vote...in the same manner as the registration for the community workshop? ASTOUNDINGLY the Council's response is that "anyone with an email address and a screen name can complete the quick poll. ALSO, AND THIS IS EVEN MORE ASTOUNDING, the Counvil "notes" "that the community workshop is not limited to residents/ratepayers." WTF? It is a ToVP "community" workshop. Why would any person or representative of any organisation that is not part of the ToVP "community" be allowed to attend and potentially skew the resulting report of the workshops that will be provifed to.Council? That makes exactly the amount of sense as if I was allowed to attend a "community" workshop in Meekatharra to consider Council giving money to the local "save the feral cats" association made up of 3 old ladies. Since the ToVP has now had to announce a 3rd workshop will be held, I don't think that it is unreasonable for the ToVP to let the interested and "real" community know how many "non-resident-ratepayers" have registered to attend the workshops and if they represent any organization or entity, who or what that organisation is.

    Jota3CL asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your statement.

  • A number of issues atise from the question asked by "What-is-true"'. First the person asks "why is the Council allowing the Harold Rossiter action group to spread so much mis-information"? The person then goes on to ask about a large grandstand/stadium,, loss of trees, environmental impact, and the "footprint" of the proposed turf facility. In response I would like to ask "What-is-true", how do you know ANY of the information being provided by HRCAG is misinformation, if you then have to ask the ToVP to give you the information you claim is HRCAG's "misinformation "? Absolutely nothing of what has been said or the information provided by HRCAG is "misinformation ". All facts, observations and information has been taken directly and exactly as provided in the more than 300 page "Business Case" commissioned by the ToVP and "received " by Council at its meeting on 11 July 2017. I would recommend to "What-is-true" to take the time to read the Business Case (which actually states that Harold Rossiter Reserve is NOT suitable), including the appendices and to then make an informed observation. This is all and only what HRCAG is and has been doing.

    Jota3CL asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Jota3CL. There has been no comment to suggest HRCAG has provided misinformation.

    We are holding a community workshop on the 6 September 2017. We hope you can attend.

  • How are you ensuring that the Victoria Park community is aware of this poll, not just the hockey club (I assume they have a database to easily send their messages out to, but much harder for the broader community that use the amenities recreationally? Are you going to add the results/numbers of the petition as a 'no' vote to this poll?

    Jess asked over 2 years ago

    No we will not be adding the petition signature numbers to the quick poll.

    The communications and marketing strategy has a number of stages that are being actioned on a daily basis. 

  • Sorry but that response did not answer my question about how/why the ratio had locked at 50:50 for such a long period of time (and votes)...and then this morning the ratio jumped so radically. Surely if this was an automatic process it would not have stalled like that? Please have your IT people explain this.

    Dougo asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your feedback. We'll look into it.

  • A club with 600 members would likely get 600 yes's. If the yes's are not significantly above the membership number then it is not an adequate survey of the greater community. This is not a clear-cut yes v no.

    Jess asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your statement Jess.  If you haven't already done so, make sure you register for the community workshop.

  • Yes, is there any other park being considered? As a resident living opposite Raphael Park, I do hope our park is not being considered. Please let me know, as I know that there would be absolute protest on that descision! Christine Hanna

    Christine asked over 2 years ago

    We are investigating additional locations and strategies to provide the VPXHC with a synthetic turf surface. This includes all parks and reserves within the border of Town of Victoria Park.

    If you haven't already done so, make sure you register for the community workshop or share your ideas



  • Is there no already developed or industrial land that could be used? Suburban wildlife e.g. Bobtails, black cockatoos, bats that use the area are already struggling with a lack of space, this will contribute to their declining numbers. More human activity, more traffic and light pollution will have a massive negative impact on these inhabitants near the proposed area. As civilised people it's our responsibility to consider the impact on the lives of other species (who have no say) as well as human enjoyment and convenience when clearing land and tree felling.

    Amy S asked over 2 years ago

    We are investigating additional locations and strategies to provide the VPXHC with a synthetic turf surface.

    If you would like to share an idea on the Share your thoughts and ideas page it will allow further community discussion.


  • I would be extremely disappointed if this project is carried out. Our current population practicing hookey versus the hockey fields in the area does not justify the need for a big facility whicg only people playing hookey can use.

    Herbert asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your statement. If you haven't already done so, make sure you register for the community workshop or share your ideas.

  • Hi Town of VP Can you please explain how your Quick Poll has registered several hundred more votes, but the ratio of votes seems to have locked at 50:50?

    Narelle asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Narelle. 547 participants have selected No and 567 participants have selected Yes.

  • I note that the results of your survey indicates that 51% not yes to 49% no but there is no mention as to where the facility would be located and as you indicate that Council is considering all sites. When a decision has been taken will the council conduct another survey asking a yes or no for the site choose otherwise what is the point of your current survey. I may support a synthetic pitch but not where Council wishes to put it.

    rexcornu asked over 2 years ago

    A quick poll is a easy way to asses the community and general perception or support regarding the potential development of a synthetic turf.

    A survey will shortly be uploaded that allows the community to comment more specifically on the consultants shortlisted locations; whilst also allowing the community to provide additional feedback. This survey will be uploaded as soon as we receive the final report from the consultant.


  • I see there is a poll asking about support of the potential development of a synthetic turf pitch to be located somewhere within the Town... please be aware that there may be many from outside the town (ie non residents or ratepayers) voting and do not take this as a representative sample of the ToVP community.

    owneroperator asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for letting us know. If you haven't already done so, make sure you register for the community workshop or share your ideas.

  • As a resident and ratepayer of Victoria Park and long time dog walker, I am fully against the development of an artificial turf hockey pitch within the ToVP.

    owneroperator asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your statement. If you haven't already done so, make sure you register for the community workshop or share your ideas.

  • How can this poll be meaningful if you are not stating exactly WHERE it is intended to be located .The word "Somewhere" is vague... or is it meant to be?? The poll should be specifically for Residents directly impacted / affected.

    Lee Blair asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your statement.

    A quick poll is a easy way to asses the community and general perception or support regarding the potential development of a synthetic turf.

    A survey will shortly be uploaded that allows the community to comment more specifically on the consultants shortlisted locations; whilst also allowing the community to provide additional feedback. This survey will be uploaded as soon as we receive the final report from the consultant.



  • How will this development impact the roost site, particularly the trees, for the forest red tailed black cockatoos?

    Adrienne asked over 2 years ago

    No decision has been made to relocate VPXHC to Harold Rossiter Reserve.

  • Why is the council allowing so much incorrect information to be circulated by the "Rossiter Action Group" both in terms of the "footprint" of the proposed turf and the environmental impact. Can we please ensure that any misinformation is identified as such. I have heard the development will include a large grandstand/Stadium, result in the removal of most of the trees which apparently are major nesting trees for the cockatoos and have a footprint that will use all the open space? Is any of this true?

    What-is-True asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your question. Yes we are aware of the misinformation that is circulating amongst the community. We are providing correct information to the public and we hope that this will reach the misinformed.

    The proposal is not for a grandstand or a stadium, but a facility. Similar to what we provide at our other parks and reserves.

    There has also been no decision to relocate the VPXHC to Harold Rossiter Reserve.

  • Part of the question asked by Ddf is how people who cannot attend the workshops "provide our own recommendations to be included in the report to be provided to Council"? The answer given does directly address the question. It simply tells us what the Council administrative staff is, proposing: "[t]he survey will include potential locations and the community will have an opportunity to score these locations with a ranking of 1 -10". Appendix B of the "Business Case for Harold Rossiter Synthetic Turf Hockey Facility" (that was received by the Council at its meeting on 11 July 2017" is a 13 page "Site Analysis” of Harold Rossiter Reserve. Can you tell us what these other potential locations are and will similar "Site Analyses" for the other "potential locations" be provided to "the community" before to and at the 4 and 6 September meetings? If not, why not?

    jakeandjesse asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Jakeandjesse

    A report will be uploaded shortly, as well as sent individually to the workshop participants prior to the workshop that will include the consultants findings, as well as site analysis for all parks and reserves within the Town.

  • Raphael Park questions How many groups have booked Raphael Park in the last 18 months ? What has been the revenue earnt from the Park for that period? What groups were they? What is the estimated membership number for each of those groups? What are the estimated number of individuals using the Park? If the Park is not available to the community, individuals and schools and current sporting groups using the facilities what alternate sites are proposed? Policy Questions What is the Town's current policy of use of synthetic turf? Given that synthetic turf is banned for verges , how can the Town reconcile considering a synthetic sports pitch? If the Park is used as a hocky stadium how will additional traffic be managed, in what is already a congested residential area? Why should the rate payers provide the facility to a club with only 600 members? What is the Town's policy on open public spaces and natural vegetation cover? If the Club need a synthetic pitch so desperately why not arrange for it at their current location or arrange to co-share with a Club with those facilities?

    karen bateman asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your question Karen.

    • In 2016/17 there were 61 casual and seasonal bookings.
    • 8 Sport Clubs and Organisations had seasonal/long term bookings - South Perth Junior Cricket Club, Curtin University Football Club, Curtin Victoria Park Cricket Club , Over 55’s Cycling Club, Perth Training and Obedience Dog Club, Perth Demons, Western Australian Cricket Association, Victoria Park Masters Football Club
    • 6 Schools had long term or casual bookings - Ursula Frayne Catholic College, Victoria Park Primary School, Victoria Park Cristian School, Regent College,Trinity College, Kent Street Senior High School.
    • The rest of the bookings were made individuals for private functions.
    • 2016/17 Revenue for Raphael Park $17,993.00
    • An estimate for passive users can not be provided as they are not recorded.

    The Town of Victoria Park’s Activities on Thoroughfares and Trading in Thoroughfares and Public Places Local Law (2000)  refers to permissible verge treatments, with artificial turf not permitted on verges. When making the decision not to allow artificial turf on verges, various issues were considered, including the environmental impact, habitat and food value, drainage and runoff, pollutants and greenhouse gas, sustainability, implications for the Town’s operations and community feedback.  


  • I notice that the Consultant Dave Lanfear was at AECOM last year. Did he have any involvement with the information tendered to the Council in the Business Plan re Harold Rossiter Reserve site that was presented to the Council on the 14th March 2017? Can you also confirm that whilst he was an Associate Director at AECOM, they compiled the report?

    jaydonv asked over 2 years ago

    Yes Dave Lanfear was involved in the original business case.

  • Is this Quick Poll open only to residents/ratepayers entitled to vote...in the same manner as the registration for the community workshop?

    Narelle asked over 2 years ago

    Anyone with an email address and a screen name can complete the quick poll. Please also note Narelle that the community workshop is not limited to residents/ratepayers.


  • Hi - how do people who cannot attend the workshops "Help us (you) do a SWOT analysis of the different sites, and provide your (our) own recommendations to be included in the report to Council. "?

    Ddf asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your question. There will be a number of ways you can participate in this project.

    • Share an idea and participants can vote on your idea
    • Register your details and attend a community workshop
    • Complete a Quick Poll
    • Community survey to be up and running next week

    The survey will include potential locations and the community will have an opportunity to score these locations with a ranking of 1-10, and provide comments on why they support or do not support a synthetic turf.

    The consultants report will be uploaded shortly which will be able to assist the community in completing this survey.


  • Who are the consultants that have been appointed?

    faudcentrossuwa asked over 2 years ago

    Dave Lanfear from Lanfear Consulting.

  • I accept there hasn't been a decision but doesn't this show that the way in which the question is posed is far to early to post? Isnt it clear its unfair and ambiguous given that really only two main parties are anticipating the Consultants report?

    jaydonv asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your statement. Using the quick poll is another way to engage the community to seek support or non support.

    If you haven't already done so, make sure you register for the community workshop or share your ideas.

  • Isn't it also ambiguous to ask the quick poll question in this manner considering there are already several synthetic turfs within the town?

    jaydonv asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Jaydonv. Any existing synthetic turfs that are within the border of the Town of Victoria Park are on private land. This question was to seek a general perception or support regarding the potential development of a synthetic turf on one of the Town's reserves or parks.

  • Dear ToVP. The 2015-2020 HockeyWA Strategic Plan indicates: In the Strategic Value section: "Develop a partnership programs with external parties to support the ongoing growth of hockey in Western Australia" In the Organisation section: "Secure Curtin University as the home of Hockey in Western Australia" In the Facilities objective section: "Facililties are maintained and continuously improved to ensure Perth Hockey Stadium remains Australia's premier Hockey venue". AND Within the Key projects section it indicates a key initiative is: "To develop a third artificial surface at Curtin University". My question is with such a clearly stated mission statement by HockeyWA to invest significantly in upgraded facilities at Curtin University, why should the ToVP be considering investing substantial amounts of rate-payer funds in to hockey facilities, moreover just hundreds of meters away from Rossiter Reserve. Given the exceedingly tight fiscal environment and community expectations to curb expenditure and to minimize burgeoning rate increases, the ToVP would need to clearly justify a proposed investment of up to several million dollars to service a code of sport with approximately 270 members residing within the ToVP and adjacent suburbs. There are higher budgetary priorities that should be considered. I strongly suggest the ToVP put on hold any decision to invest in upgraded hockey facilities pending further advice on the Curtin University upgrades being planned.

    John Mamo asked over 2 years ago

    The Town acknowledges that Hockey WA would like to develop a third turf at Curtin University and has been in conversation with a representative from Curtin in regards to this for over a year now. As there has been  no decision made in regards to the third turf, nor is there any guarantee that this would be available for use by the Victoria Park Xavier Hockey Club, opportunities to provide the Club with a synthetic turf on a reserve owned by the Town are being investigated, as well as other strategies such as opportunities at Curtin University.


  • There are two other hockey clubs in the suburbs immediately surrounding Vic Park ... Wesley/South Perth & Curtin Hockey Club. Unfortunately for the Vic Park based club, because of all the negative attention they've brought onto themselves, their time might now be up. A sensible option would be to merge, or fold. Yes I appreciate that they have many members (600+) but redistributing these players to other clubs will still have a beneficial flow on effect to the hockey in WA. They main goal here is keeping the sport alive in WA, not just at one club. Keep your eyes on the bigger picture. It happens in other sports where teams are forced to merge, fold, change divisions, amend catchment zones etc. Take a look at East Perth & Subiaco Football Club ... both have more members than this hockey club, attract larger crowds and require better facilities, yet they manage to share a facility (Leederville Oval) very well. Has merging with another nearby club been considered? Has folding and redistributing players been considered?

    NoHockey asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for the above. It is my recommendation that you contact the club direct to seek an answer.

  • Can I suggest you undertake a screening set of questions for the registration? You will want to ensure you have a balanced workshop where there is an equal representation of participants.

    Frehnejc asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your suggestion Jason. This will certainly be considered.

  • Why is the quick poll wording unfair and ambiguous to the two major parties involved in this debate? Most of the HRRCAG don't have an issue with a synthetic turf, just that for a variety of reasons, the Harold Rossiter Park is not the place to have it. Cant the questions be 1) Are you in support of the potential development of a synthetic turf pitch to be located at Harold Rossiter Reserve, then 2) If No, then are you in support of the potential development of a synthetic turf pitch to be located in a more suitable location within the ToVP.

    jaydonv asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your question. There has been no decision made to relocate VPXHC to Harold Rossiter Reserve and this is why we have not included this reserve in the quick poll.

    The quick poll is an easy way to poll the community and assess a general perception or support regarding the potential development of a synthetic turf. The survey will include potential locations and the community will have an opportunity to score these locations with a ranking of 1-10, and provide comments on why they support or do not support a synthetic turf.

    The consultants report will be uploaded shortly which will be able to assist the community in completing this survey.

  • What is the benefit to ratepayers of the Town of Victoria Park (financial or otherwise) of spending a large sum of money to relocate the hockey club, given that only a minority of its members are residents of the Town? MFisher

    over 2 years ago

    The Town of Victoria Park provides a number of services and facilities for the use of ratepayers and visitors. These are not necessarily used by all ratepayers. The potential development of a synthetic turf playing pitch for the Victoria Park Xavier Hockey Club would, if the project is endorsed by Council (which has not yet occurred) would benefit the members of the Club. The Club's current home ground (fields and clubrooms) that is located at Fletcher Park in Carlisle, and they share with the Perth Cricket Club has playing surfaces that are considered some of the best grass hockey fields in Perth. That said, the changing nature of hockey competition in Australia (and the world) has seen a move from natural grass turf facilities to synthetic turf. VPXHC is one of only two Premier 1 hockey clubs in Perth that does not have a synthetic turf facility (or a commitment to one e.g. Lakelands Turf Project in the City of Cockburn where the Fremantle Hockey Club will be relocated to). Most of the second division clubs also have synthetic turf facilities.

    Benefits to other members of the community vary depending on the potential location of the Club e.g. greater activation of parks in the afternoon / early evening increases safety and natural surveillance.


  • As a resident and ratepayer of Victoria Park for 24 years, as well as a 32 year member of the Victoria Park Hockey Club, and long time dog walker, I fully support the development of an artificial turf hockey pitch within the ToVP.

    Alan Dick asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Alan, thank you for your statement. If you haven't already done so, make sure you register for the community workshop or share your ideas.

  • I have been away and may have missed some information, so I would appreciate some clarification of some aspects of the community workshop. Could you please explain the objective of this workshop? Your information indicates that the community will be requested to do a SWOT (strengths/weaknesses/opportunities/threats) analysis of potential sites at this workshop, is that correct? If so....what information will they be relying on to make these assessments?

    Narelle asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks for your question Narelle. An information pack will be provided to registered participants prior to the community workshop. This will include a report from the consultants findings.

    At the workshop, the consultant will explain the process of his investigation as well as the history of the project. The participants of the workshop will have the opportunity to complete a strengths/weaknesses/opportunities/threats on the potential sites. Participants will also have the opportunity to suggest alternative sites not highlighted, or discuss ones that are.

    We look forward to seeing you at the workshop Narelle.


  • Hi Council,, I think you misinterperated my Question,,,I asked if you know how many members of the Vic Park Hockey Club are ToVP ratepayers,,,,When you answer aproximately 45% of an aproximated 600 it sound as if you actually dont know the true figure,,maybe ask the Hockey Club,,,What is aproximately 600,,would you be able to tell me what aproximately 600 is,,,is 570 members aprox 600,, or maybe they have over 600,,,why would you base it on aproximate numbers which mean nothing as they can be changed at any time,,,I would think Council should know this as it is spending a lot of money on it for the Hockey Club,,,may I ask how you came about aproximate numbers and approximate percenatages and why give the answer as such rather than true figures Thanks Pat

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Pat. The information answered in the previous question was information provided by VPXHC.

    If you would like further clarification as to exact number from VPXHC, I recommend you contact the club direct. http://www.vicparkpanthers.com.au/wspContacts.aspx


  • Hi Tina Given that HRR and connected Kensington Bushland area is the jewel in the crown of 'green space' in ToVP and highly valued and utilised in its current condition as such, how can the Town legitimately destroy this asset for the sake of a minority of single use sport players? Below is a an extract from findings of Perth City Summit as to what the people of Perth value most in their city. Please note that Green Spaces was one of the most treasured assets in our city. "FEEDBACK collected from 1000 online surveys and three workshops attended by 250 people has revealed the five best and worst things about Perth. CAT buses topped the list of the best things about Perth; green spaces, walkability, being close to everything and café culture/bars followed. The worst thing about Perth included safety concerns and anti-social behaviour."

    Narelle asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your question Narelle. There has been no decision to relocate the VPXHC to Harold Rossiter Reserve.

  • It's great to see that after more than 10 years the town is committed to looking for a much needed turf for the hockey club.

    George asked over 2 years ago

    Thanks Phil for your comment.

    We are holding a community workshop on the 6 September 2017. We hope you can attend.

  • Based on your answer to my previous question "At this stage, the existing business case for Harold Rossiter Reserve will not be updated to include a 'do nothing option' as we are now investigating alternative options and strategies for a potential synthetic turf facility. All parks and reserves within the Town will be included in these investigations." Can you confirm that the new options will also include not building a synthetic turf facility at all? Or if this isn't the case please confirm that the Town is committed to the capital investment required for the facility. In addition to this, will similar investment be made into facilities for other large sporting clubs in the area?

    owneroperator asked over 2 years ago

    The review of all existing parks for options and strategies is the focus of these investigations. Once that is completed, the Town will possibly look at further options including partnering with other local governments or groups, and the option of not proceeding with the synthetic turf facility within the Town. A community engagement report and independent consultant findings will be presented to the council to consider at their October meeting.

    The Town continually tries to accommodate a variety of sporting disciplines within the Town.


  • Hi Council keep explaining how the Hockey Club have over 500 members,,, Does Council know or can it ask the Hockey Club how many of those members are ToVP ratepayers,,,No body seems to want to answer this,,,I feel if council want to relocate as Hockey club due to membership numbers they should at least know this,,,, Also the hockey club states member from 5years to 80 years old,, seeing that all the astro turf fields around Perth are all short pile for high class atheletes and not suited to children This is from hockey WA site /// Synthetic turf of a pile length of 40mm or greater is unlikely to be suitable for higher level competition hockey although it may be suitable for junior, school and social level hockey.,,just wondering what length turf you going for,,,maybe get a medium length so it suits both junior and senior hockey,,,

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Pat,

    The VPXHC has approximately 600 playing members (not including coaches, committee, managers or social members) and approximately 45% are residents of the Town.

    We are currently investigating alternative options and strategies for one synthetic turf and three grass fields. Project details (including the design) will be worked out at a later date if the project progresses.

  • Hi. can you have the business case updated to include the do nothing option in the financial analysis and assessment as well? It seems that this has been excluded. It's almost as if the business case doesn't examine an option like that at all. As if they are pushing to have the facility built for their own benefit, without a holistic and balanced assessment being made.

    owneroperator asked over 2 years ago

    At this stage, the existing business case for Harold Rossiter Reserve will not be updated to include a 'do nothing option' as we are now investigating alternative options and strategies for a potential synthetic turf facility. All parks and reserves within the Town will be included in these investigations.

  • Hello Tina 16 days ago I asked if the general community would be informed about the project centering on Harold Rossiter Reserve in ways other than via the Council's website and online means, as it is excluding those who are effected but who do not necessarily follow the Council's online feeds. At that time you informed me that: "We have developed a marketing and communication plan for this project and we will be using a number of methods to inform all stakeholders of the project and how they can be involved. These include, but not limited to NEWSPAPER ARTICLES, SIGNS AROUND HAROLD ROSSITER RESERVE, social media, online engagement and DIRECT CORRESPONDENCE." I am disappointed to say that although you are calling for expressions of interest in attending a workshop, to my knowledge you have NOTyet made any attempts to put up signs around Harold Rossiter, place newspaper advertisements or speak to your constituents directly about this opportunity. Please do not disenfranchise many people who would be interested in, and have strong opinions about, this issue. Everyone in our community deserves to know what is happening and have the chance to have their say. There is still a very large number of people in our community who have not even heard about this issue, and many who are very surprised to hear it has been going on so long, but with so minimal communication from Council. Please consult our community fairly and transparently. Please make some genuine efforts toward informing all about the issue and how they may have their say. Thank you.

    jakeandjesse asked over 2 years ago

    The communications and marketing strategy has a number of stages that are being actioned on a daily basis. Today you will find an advertisement in the Southern Gazette for the community workshop on page 10. You will also notice over the next week signs and posters being placed around the Town of Victoria Park. Individual invitations to registered participants have been sent and community and sporting groups will be sent over the next few days.

  • Hi Tina, In the recent information sent to me by the Town of Victoria Park along with my rates notice. There was a breakdown of how the Town manages it's budget. Regardless of the many points in the business case relating to the possible relocation of a single sporting club to the Harold Rossiter reserve that suggest this would be a risky investment choice. I was shocked to see in the information sent through with my rates notice. That the potential investment in this risky choice, could be as much as a third of one whole years budget for "Recreation and culture" for the whole of the Town of Victoria Park. To support a club over half of whose members I believe are not even rate payers in Victoria Park. I am puzzled by the enthusiasm of the council to not only focus so much time effort and energy on Harold Rossiter as the site for helping out a hockey club with so few rate payers in it. But also more generally for potentially spending such a huge amount of the Town's annual budget in doing so. Apart from expressing my dissatisfaction as a rate payer by voting at the next Council election for the first time in all the years I have lived in Victoria Park. Are there any other ways you can make known to me that I can register my dissatisfaction with the performance of the council?

    Paul C asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Paul. Thank you for providing us with your feedback. There are a number of ways you can provide additional feedback to the Town or direct to the Elected Members:

    • In writing to admin@vicpark.wa.gov.au or 99 Shepperton Road, Victoria Park
    • In writing direct to the Elected Members emails
    • Make a statement at a council briefing session or a council meeting. These take place the first two Tuesday's of the month.


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  • 14 days ago, Lfrehner asked:"[i]f the TOVP carry out community workshops, surveys etc on this matter will the Administration and Council actually listen to what we say? Previous community opinion captured in workshops and surveys seems to have been ignored." I assume it was Ms Ackerman who responded: "...[a] community engagement report that will include a summary of all feedback received and the method will be provided to Elected Members, as well as a report from an independent consultant to inform their decision making." Can you please provide the identity the "independent consultant"? Will community members who attend the workshop on 4 September be provided with a copy of the report from the independent consultant to inform THEIR decision making? Will the community be provided with access to the "community engagement report that will include a summary of all feedback received and the method" prior to it being presented to Elected Members. In addition, what information or documentation will the community members who attend the workshop be provided with prior to the workshop? It is extremely important that the community members have sufficient time to consider any and all documents, reports or other information well in advance of the workshop.

    Jota3CL asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your question. The appointed consultant is Dave Lanfear from Dave Lanfear Consulting.

    A report will be supplied to workshop participants. It will include a site assessment analysis (including weighted criteria). Due to limited time constraints it will not be possible to produce this prior to the workshop as the process will be ongoing. 

    An overview of the community feedback received to date will be presented at the workshop and the final community engagement report will be available to the public. 

  • The second (2nd) paragraph on page 13 of section 3.0 of the “Business Case for Harold Rossiter Synthetic Turf Hockey Facility” states: [t]he ToVP is undergoing a major review and consultation process to develop a Community Strategic Plan (SCP) for the next fifteen (15) years and pursuing a number of strategic projects, which are at various stages of development. These projects aim to enhance the Towns economic and community development perspective… it is noted that the current SCP DID NOT identify the development of a synthetic turf hockey facility as a strategic priority”. To clarify and highlight this point - the current Strategic Plan to which the current elected councillors SHOULD be committed DOES NOT identify the development of a synthetic turf hockey facility as a strategic priority for the ToVP. Therefore, based on the complete lack of community consultation and consideration, potential economic risks to the ToVP and NO public advice or indication of intention by the currently elected members for this initiative; the Harold Rossiter Synthetic Turf Proposal cannot, and should not, be supported as presented. This is because the Harold Rossiter Synthetic Turf Proposal conflicts with the intent of the current Community Strategic Plan and is against ALL of the principles by which sitting members of the ToVP Council were elected. I ask that all current councillors clearly state that if they are in support of Harold Rossiter Synthetic Turf Proposal and, if so, the reasons why they think they have constituent support?

    Jota3CL asked over 2 years ago

    The Strategic Community Plan is a high level strategic document. The role of this document is not to make reference to specific projects.

    The Town’s Elected Members are individuals who operate separately to the Town’s administration, we cannot speak for them and we suggest you contact them individually to clarify their opinions and ideas.

  • Hello. Why not develop the quarry into a hockey park, it is sitting idle doing bugger all. or if the mayor wants it that bad then stick in in the Mayor's back yard.

    Hockey pitch asked over 2 years ago

    Yes this is one of the options that is being investigated.

  • Hi Tina - can I ask if specific alternative sites have been considered in the same detail as Harold Rossiter park or if they will be now that you have engaged a further consultant? I wondered about Higgins Park, Go Edwards Park, Raphael Park, McCallum Park and Taylor Reserve. Thanks.

    Ddf asked over 2 years ago

    All parks and reserves in the town are being included in the consultants investigation.


  • Refer the Business Case for Harold Rossiter Synthetic Turf Hockey Facility, Section 3.5.1 Implications of the document review, bullet point 6: "A traffic impact assessment has not been completed to inform the access requirements, car parking and impact of the surrounding area" and on page 16 it states "The car parking layout was assessed by the Town's traffic Engineer who advised that parking or access will need to be reconsidered, although no major concerns are raised." I would like to challenge this assumption, as any extension of the existing parking facility will encroach on the adjoining Kensington Bushland and I would argue that the parking facilities are inadequate for the proposed development, including current users. Could you please answer the following questions 1. How many parking spaces are currently available? 2. How many parking spaces would be required for the hockey club, and for what percentage of the day on given days of the week? 3. The business case refers only to access via Kent St, has any consideration been given to traffic and parking impact on Rathay St which also adjacent to Harold Rossiter Reserve and has the City of South Perth been included in these consultations? Please note that Rathay St is a school zone and is currently used heavily by locals as a rat run from Berwick St to George St. There is an existing problem with current users of Harold Rossiter Reserve parking too close to the corner of Rathay St and Anketell St which would be exacerbated by increased competition for parking for the hockey club. 4. Can you please confirm consideration of all surrounding streets will be included in any traffic management study.

    Alison asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your questions.

    Harold Rossiter Reserve has 68 parking bays and 1 disabled bay.

    No decision has been made to relocate the VPXHC to Harold Rossiter Reserve. A traffic impact assessment and a traffic management plan for any proposed site would need to be completed. The traffic impact assessment would cover the parking facilities.

    VPXHC has a seasonal lease with the Town at Fletcher Park. We do not monitor the parking in regards to usage at this facility. If you would like to confirm details of the training and playing nights/days please contact the club direct.

    The Town has recently employed an external consultant who is currently identifying all possible sites within and external to the Town that could be used as a synthetic playing turf by VPXHC. Once these recommendations have been received they will be submitted to Council as well as the community consultation report. Elected Members will then make a decision based on this information.



  • Good morning,because of the increase in population through subdivision ect surely our parks need to be left alone, so all the community benefit from the foresight of our forbearers, they seemed to know the value of kids running and playing wild,or is this too simplistic?Remember close the railway to Fremantle!!! close City beach school, all decisions made for the good of the community? More population equals more use of at the moment one of the few facilities that is free. Respectively yours Keith Abbott.

    keith abbott asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Keith, thank you for your statement. If you haven't already done so, make sure you register your interest and share your ideas.

  • HI Tina, There are substantial environmental considerations in developing Harold Rossiter Reserve to host synthetic turf hockey facilities. The preliminary environmental impact assessment lists a number of significant vulnerable, endangered and critically endangered fauna and flora species that will be negatively impacted by the said development. Amongst these are the threatened Red Tail Cockatoo and endangered Carnaby Cockatoo. Please can you clarify what additional specific Environmental Impact studies will be undertaken and the timeline for the results of these to be available to the stakeholders? Thank you, Michele

    mbsummerill asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Michelle. There has been no decision made to progress forward with a synthetic turf facility at Harold Rossister Reserve. A consultant has recently been appointed to investigate alternative locations and strategies within and external to the Town.

    If, and only if Harold Rossiter Reserve was selected as the preferred location by the elected members, further site investigation would take place and would be available to the public. These investigations would include a detailed investigation and analysis, a specific environmental plan, a detailed Flora and Fauna investigation, a geotechnical investigation and water management plan

  • Definately the last question or rather same question different way,or rather a clarification,,,,what your saying is there no possible way the mayor or anyone else would know how many trees will be removed at this stage

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    No we can not confirm how many/if any trees will be removed. There has been no decision made to relocate VPXHC to Harold Rossiter Reserve.


  • What Im asking is whether any trees will be removed,,simple answer yes or no,,,you mean to tell me you have done case studies that cost heaps and you dont know,,is this correct ,,so where it says removal of 6 trees in your report is incorrect,,,and also the mayors comment on no trees will be removed I have to ask the mayor because you dont know if that is correct or not,,,,maybe you could research the case study for me and find the answer,,,,I fully understand on how you dont want to admit the mayor lied but I would like it aired on this page so everyone can see it rather than a personal email to the mayor,,,maybe you could ask the mayor yourself as that is what you get paid to do and then get back to me Thanks

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    Unfortunately it’s not a simple answer. The concept design which is in the Business Case is a concept only. It is not a final design, because there hasn’t actually been a decision made to develop anything at Harold Rossiter Reserve. If a decision is made to go forward with this project, a detailed planning, design and community consultation process will be undertaken. The final design could result in no trees needing to be removed, or it could result in six, possibly seven trees that need to be removed as per the concept plan included in the Business Case. It is too early to answer at this point in time.

    The Town’s Elected Members are individuals who operate separately to the Town’s administration, we cannot speak for them and we suggest you contact them individually to clarify their opinions and ideas.

    Thank you for expression your interested in the potential synthetic turf hockey facility. If you would like to receive notifications on future public participation please ensure you register.

  • How the hell can you make a decision on where the hockey facility is to go when you dont know how many trees will need to be removed,,,,ie if all trees have to be removed at a venue to place a hockey field on it how can you choose a site,,,I find it amazing the case study mentions the trees being a problem with being removed because they are cockatoo habitat and you as council dont know anything about it

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    There has been no decision at this point in time. Council has decided to explore alternative locations and strategies for this project.

  • OK one last question which will save me contacting the mayor,,,Is his comment that no trees will be removed correct or incorrect ie I am asking the council now will any trees have to be removed if this facility goes ahead Thanks PS: this was asked of the council at the meeting and I thought when the mayor answered he was answering on behalf of the council

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    At this stage of the project we are looking at potential locations only. Detailed planning around the design of a facility would occur at a later date if a decision is made to go ahead with the project. Until this level of planning is undertaken it is impossible to determine the impact on a hypothetical site. We suggest you contact the Mayor to clarify his comment.


  • Just another quick question,,,The case study differs from what people say,, ie case says water will be needed for the pitch but hockey club says no ect ect,,,Now my question is ,,,At the last council meeting the Mayor said no trees will be removed ,,,was this just a lie to keep us happy or could you please show me where or what report has stated no trees will be removed becauses ,,,this is a statement recorded in council minutes, If he was incorrect please state this,,or show me the report that says no trees because all the case studies I have read say a minimum of 6 trees will be removed but Mayor says none

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    No decision has been made to relocate VPXHC to Harold Rossiter Reserve. Project details (including the design) will be worked out at a later date if the project progresses.

    For clarification on the comment's made by the Mayor at the Ordinary Council Meeting on the 11th July 2017, please contact him direct.

  • How long is consultation,,are you going to do a letter drop,,,Why if this has been an ongoing concern for 15 years is it not in our pamphlet we just got with our rates,,it could have been included in the pamphlet at no extra charge but now will have to be another cost,,I have been told it is only a mere 6 weeks,,,do you not think this is a bit short seeing you have known about it for 15 years,,also if it is only 6 weeks do you not think you should do the letter drop staright away,,, I can find no other reason for not doing a letter drop,,it is the only way to inform all ratepayers,,,ie do you put an ad in the paper when you want the rates paid,,no you send us a letter so we all get it,,,,then you wont have to worry about ads in papers ect ect because everyone will be informed,,Could you please inform how much is allocated to informing the public,,ie how much is going to be spent on ads ect ect when it would be cheaper and better to do a letter drop,,But then maybe you dont want ratepayers informed??

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your question. The council made a resolution at its meeting on 11 July 2017 to receive the business case, and investigate additional locations and strategies to provide the VPXHC with a synthetic turf surface. The Life in the Park rates edition went to print on the 10th July. This timeframe did not allow us to include information on the resolution.

    We will be confirming a date shortly for a community workshop. This will take place after the investigation by the external consultant. This date will be advertised on Your Thoughts, social media, community newspapers and direct via email to stakeholders and registered Your Thoughts participants. An unverified letter drop through Australia Post to all residents would costs approximately $2,500 and take 10 days. This would not allow sufficient time to advertise the workshop once a date has been set.

    The timeframe for the investigation of alternative locations and strategies is six weeks. If Council decide in October to progress the project any further, a more extensive community consultation process will be undertaken.


  • Is the study only reviewing the provision of supplying one synthetic turf surface for the VPXHC and the existing grass playing field being retained at Fletcher Reserve, or is it looking at totally relocating the VPXHC fields and clubrooms to an alternate location?

    methanol asked over 2 years ago

    Council has decided to explore alternative locations and strategies for this project. There has been no decision at this point in time.

  • The Town of Victoria Park Sport and Recreation Facilities Strategy document authored by David Langdon and dated 07 November 2013 states: "The development of Harrold Rossiter Reserve for the purposes of facilitating the growth in hockey is not considered to be an acceptable solution. The use of the reserve for cricket and soccer is the prime driver for its future development. This needs to be reflected in any future planning". The recommendation indicated in the Town of Victoria Park Sport and Recreation Facilities Strategy document is consistent with the Business Case documents presented to Council to develop Harrold Rossiter to host synthetic hockey turf facilities which conclude that "Harrold Rossiter Reserve is the 'least appropriate' and indeed a 'high-risk' site to develop synthetic turf facilities. The Council would have strong community support if Rossiter was categorically excluded from consideration of the synthetic turf considerations. Moreover, extraordinary opportunities exist for the Town of Victoria Park to instead promote this environmentally sensitive and unique open space as a flagship exemplary site of the Towns support of communal health living opportunities.

    johnmamo asked over 2 years ago

    There has been no decision made to relocate VPXHC to Harold Rossiter Reserve. Council has decided to explore alternative locations and strategies for this project. We will be seeking community input over the next month.

    We will be developing a Public Open Space Strategy. More information regarding this project will be made available in the near future.

  • Hello Tina It is much appreciated that the ToVP is now calling for the general public to register interest in this issue. However, I am concerned that many stakeholders will not be aware of how to register if they are not Facebook users or someone who visits the ToVP website. Potentially you are excluding a large number of interested and/or affected ratepayers and residents, especially the elderly or those who are not tech savvy. Will you be notifying the general public of this issue by non-online means eg advertisement in the newspaper, notice at a public place such as the local shopping centres etc? Thank you for considering this as it is important to get a fair and comprehensive representation of all members of our community. Finally, could you please tell me how long the online registration period will last? Thank you.

    jakeandjesse asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for expressing your concerns. We have developed a marketing and communication plan for this project and we will be using a number of methods to inform all stakeholders of the project and how they can be involved. These include, but not limited to newspaper articles, signs around Harold Rossiter Reserve, social media, online engagement and direct correspondence. As soon as the date for the community workshop is finalised, all registered interest will be emailed direct and invited to attend. The community engagement phase will run for approximately six weeks.

  • Hi, You haven't really answered the question, they asked do ALL clubs pay for club rooms they use, I cannot see specifically within the fees and charges in the Hockey club example where they are paying this fee. Can you tell me what page is this on? thank you

    fuzzywuzzy asked over 2 years ago

    VPXHC have a seasonal lease with the Town of Victoria Park. They are not subject to fee's and charges. VPXHC pays a seasonal (April-Sep) fee of $2,648.50 plus CPI increase as well as utility expenses.

    All sporting clubs that use Towns facilities, parks and reserves are subject to either fee's and charges, lease agreement or seasonal hire arrangements.

  • If the TOVP carry out community workshops, surveys etc on this matter will the Administration and Council actually listen to what we say? Previous community opinion captured in workshops and surveys seems to have been ignored.

    Lfrehner asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your question Lfrehner. A community engagement report that will include a summary of all feedback received and the method will be provided to Elected Members, as well as a report from an independent consultant to inform their decision making.

  • Tina, If a petition is raised and presented to Council requesting the removal of Harold Rossiter Reserve as a potential venue for the proposed synthetic turf facility and is signed by a majority of ToVP ratepayers as opposed to number of ToVP ratepayer hockey club members, then should Council therefore not observe the ratepayer majority accordingly?

    ahowlett67 asked over 2 years ago

    All petitions provided to Council will be received in accordance with clause 5.10 of the Town of Victoria Park Standing Orders Local Law 2011. All petitions received, as well as the community engagement report and independent consultant findings will be presented to the council to consider at their October meeting.

    For more information on petitions, please visit petitions to council on our website.

  • As per the previous answer to the question: "VPXHC pays a seasonal (April-Sep) fee of $2,648.50 plus CPI increase as well as utility expenses." Does the TOVP know if this levy applies to ALL clubs that are housed in council owned facilities?

    Frehnejc asked over 2 years ago

    Thank you for your question. The Towns facilities, parks and reserves used by sporting clubs are subject to the Town’s fees and charges, lease agreement or seasonal hire arrangements.

  • Surely, it would make more sense to move the cricket from Fletcher Park so that there's room for the synthetic turf to be installed there?

    blkswandes asked over 2 years ago

    We are investigating additional locations and strategies to provide the VPXHC with a synthetic turf surface.

    If you would like to share this idea on the Share your thoughts and ideas page it will allow further community discussion.

  • Where is the supporting independent data that confirms ToVP statement 'The Town has acknowledged that if VPXHC is to remain competitive and sustainable they require a synthetic turf field.' as per the opening gambit to this page?

    ahowlett67 asked over 2 years ago

    The statement was provided by VPXHC. If you would like further information please direct your query to VPXHC.

  • Hi Tina, After having tested all dog parks in my neighbourhood I found Harold Rossiter particlarly perfect for walking my dog. There is such a supportive dog walking community and my dog wishes to see his friends in the park every day. In summer the park is significantly cooler than the rest of our suburb and a perfect place to cool down, particularly for those of us without airconditioning. Is this summer coolness going to be affected with a synthetic turf in the middle of the park? Anna.

    amulders asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Anna. Harold Rossiter Reserve is a fantastic reserve for dog walking. There has been no decision made to relocate VPXHC to Harold Rossiter Reserve. Council has decided to explore alternative locations and strategies for this project. We will be seeking community input over the next month.


  • Respective to the Harold Rossiter Synthetic Turf business case study cost inefficiencies need to be identified by local and State Government given the substantial budgetary pressures being experienced in Western Australia and indeed by West Australian tax-payers. Consolidation of resources and shared costing arrangements should be considered wherever possible. ToVP residents have experienced extraordinary council rate increases over the past decade and expenditure must be carefully considered and fully justified. The business case document indicates that The City of Belmont is willing to discuss the possibility of working with the ToVP to develop a synthetic hockey facility at their sport and recreation precinct - 400 Abernethy Rd Belmont. Moreover, Harold Rossiter is located less than 3km from Curtin University, which houses the State Hockey Stadium, that has completed a Business Case for a third synthetic turf pitch. Harold Rossiter’s development would clearly be a duplication of facilities at Curtin University Partnership opportunities with the City of Belmont, or Curtin University might be realised, which could address the purported needs of the Victoria Park Xavier Hockey Club (VPXHC). Are any of these options being explored at this point?

    blkswan asked over 2 years ago

    Yes, we will be investigating additional locations and strategies to provide the VPXHC with a synthetic turf surface.


  • ToVPs stated ratepayer membership within the VPXHC is incorrect the VPX Hockey Club has advised that membership inclusive of ToVP residents, South Perth (Kensington) and Cannington (St James) is approximately 48%. Excluding the latter, ToVP is about 38%. ToVP must ensure the correct figures are published accordingly.

    ahowlett67 asked over 2 years ago

    The information provided by the VPXHC was that 45% of the members resided in the Town.


  • Hi Tina - when this does proceed to community consultation, will you ask for input in a variety of ways such as workshops, council meetings, online surveys etc? If so, will you weight the input depending on the method of input? If so, how will you weight the various methods? I'm interested in whether input gathered at face to face meetings and workshops has more 'weight' (impact) than data collected from online forms or petitions and if not, how you account for that. I'm concerned that community members who can't attend face to face forums are properly represented in your consultations. I'd hate to think that they were considered not to care enough to turn up and so their opinions carry less 'weight' than others. Thanks

    1mattdolan asked over 2 years ago

    We will be engaging the community in a variety of methods, including a survey, online engagement, community workshop and targeted stakeholder meetings.  A community engagement report that will include a summary of all feedback received and the method will be provided to Elected Members, as well as a report from an independent consultant to inform their decision making.

    At this point in time consideration has not been given to weighting the input methods; however this suggestion will be taken on board and discussed with Elected Members.

    The community engagement report will be available for viewing once it is complete

  • Hi Narelle,, I think the hockey club should have a synthertic turf field I just dont want it at Harold Rossiter,,,My question is,,if the council spend money investigating/planning Harold Rossiter and then find out it is feasable and the bushland/cockatoos wont be a problem and Harold Rossiter is the best place for it,,,and then you consult and ask the public and they vote that they dont want it under any circumstances,,will the council listen or will they continue with studies ect and keep spending our money,,,dont get me wrong if the ratepayers vote for it ,,although I dont want it I will accept it,,,I cant see why the council dont consult the ratepayers before they spend anymore of our money,,,,Will the councillers continue to ignore the ratepayers,,,,,your own study states the public backlash so why keep it hidden from them??

    Pat asked over 2 years ago

    Elected Members will take into account all information presented, including community feedback and an independent consultant’s report on alternative locations. Their decision will be based on what they believe is in the best interests of the community.


  • I have heard from a number of local folks that there is a number of people (even a growing resistance to using HRR for this purpose as it is to benefit very few......furthermore, there is talk the shire will also look at alternative locations including the much loved and widely used Raphael park.....is this true? I would like to know how many of the hockey club membership actually reside in the shire.....and how much money the club would be coughing up for any development.....

    WMHarro asked over 2 years ago

    Yes, the Town is currently investigating all reserves, parks and open spaces in the Town to identify if any would be a suitable alternative location.

    The VPXHC has approximately 600 playing members (not including coaches, committee, managers or social members) and approximately 45% are residents of the Town.

    If a project were to progress typically the Town’s net contribution would be one third of the total cost, with the Club and other sources (e.g. the Department of Sport and Recreation) making up the remaining contribution. At this point in time the Club intends to contribute $500,000 to the project if it is progressed.


  • Can I ask whether you have to live in Vic park to be a member of the club? And if not, how many members of the hockey club do live in Vic park? And, does the club pay fees to the council? If so, how much? I think it's important that rate payers understand the proportion of investment per resident.

    Ddf asked over 2 years ago

    You do not have to live in the Town to be a member of the VPXHC.

    The VPXHC has approximately 600 playing members (not including coaches, committee, managers or social members) and approximately 45% are residents of the Town.

    VPXHC pays a seasonal (April-Sep) fee of $2,648.50 plus CPI increase as well as utility expenses.


  • How about a multi use facility that can service rugby, hockey and soccer?

    owneroperator asked over 2 years ago

    Wherever possible the Town endeavours to make multi-use of all of our facilities.

  • Tina, may I ask why HRR is still being considered for this development, when the ToVP's own consultants have indicated that HRR is the least suitable venue?

    Narelle asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Narelle, all opportunities and options within parks and reserves in the Town are being considered.

  • Tina, if this discussion is about using HRR for this development, could I respectfully request other stakeholders websites be linked here in addition to the hockey club's?

    Narelle asked over 2 years ago

    We acknowledge that there is a wide range of groups and individuals that use the Harold Rossiter Reserve and the surrounding area. We will be inviting all community groups and sporting clubs that not only use Harold Rossiter Reserve but any of the parks and reserves within the Town to be involved during the community consultation period.

  • If your going to put a link to the hockey website do you not think you should also link Harold Rossiter reserve, Kensington bush land, soccer and cricket club web pages and all the other community groups that currently use the reserve.

    S.C asked over 2 years ago

    We acknowledge that there is a wide range of groups and individuals that use the Harold Rossiter Reserve and the surrounding area. We will be inviting all community groups and sporting clubs that not only use Harold Rossiter Reserve but any of the parks and reserves within the Town to be involved during the community consultation period.


  • Would it be possible for us to please see all questions asked and replies here, if this is to be a public forum?

    Narelle asked over 2 years ago

    Hi Narelle. Yes all questions that relate to this specific project will be answered publicly.